tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2982662593354859176.post5864953767608487313..comments2023-06-18T02:22:39.269-06:00Comments on Just Another Clay Pot: Insulting God: A Non-Miraculous SalvationBetsy Markmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13600148899348868100noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2982662593354859176.post-42702957225232139792008-12-03T10:00:00.000-07:002008-12-03T10:00:00.000-07:00I'm a first time visitor. I hopped over here stra...I'm a first time visitor. I hopped over here straight from your comment on Challies today. The person you described yourself to be sounded so much like me. I was saved at the age of 40, after years as a professing Christian. I've no doubt whatsoever that I was not a Christian before, though I sometimes wonder if I've been deceiving myself again - 'cause I'm so adept at it after all those years. Anyway, this is an excellent post and I hope you won't mind if I follow your blog.Laurie M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15840896949617719814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2982662593354859176.post-26363517408675168182008-11-21T17:01:00.000-07:002008-11-21T17:01:00.000-07:00. . . even on this comment page, I can't help but .... . . even on this comment page, I can't help but feel as if I'm almost part of some secret underground society. For to speak so freely of these powerful, powerful truths would get you SO chastised in the "church" today. <BR/><BR/>To have this discussion out in the open with both beleivers and non-beleivers (Spritual-Beleivers and Carnal-Beleivrs) would be considered "judgemental" and "Jerry Fallwell Wacko Conservatism" Yet, it is GOD's TRUTH. (I wish I could bold that and make it 72pt type!)<BR/><BR/>...and as Elaine says, how do you know if someone's profession is true?<BR/><BR/>I'm pretty sure our President Elect has not had a salvation experience. Yet for me to say that to even some people in my church would be absolutely taboo!<BR/>So how do you share the TRUTH of Salvation? How do you get people to see that a prayer has NOTHING at all to do with it? How do you approach someone who is so secure in their works- and emotion-based Christianity to as to share the transforming power of a Crucified Christ so they can experience and live TRUE Biblical Salvation!!!????<BR/><BR/>It is not ours to judge another person's heart. But evangelism has to start somewhere. I think it will grow more and more difficult as Christ's return nears.<BR/><BR/>The contrast between true beleivers and those receiving a non-miraculous, non-fruit bearing salvation is growing quite stark!<BR/><BR/>--- I'm only on #2, But you ought to send these to some (radical wacko conservative JerryFalwell-brand) publication. They are very good!<BR/><BR/>The Words of esthermay have ended<BR/>:-)Esthermay Bentley-Goossenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17353385912611151311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2982662593354859176.post-60810637007763864122008-11-13T14:48:00.000-07:002008-11-13T14:48:00.000-07:00I'm crying. You wrapped this up so beautifully. ...I'm crying. You wrapped this up so beautifully. Yeah, the Holy Spirit has gifted you, Betsy. Thank you for sharing your gift.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2982662593354859176.post-4427858401733479572008-11-12T06:55:00.000-07:002008-11-12T06:55:00.000-07:00Awesome post, Betsy. My dear sister Sunny and I we...Awesome post, Betsy. My dear sister Sunny and I were JUST TALKING about this the other day. The Spirit of God really speaks through you on this subject.LauraLee Shawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06092672958394657296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2982662593354859176.post-66443091246654094062008-11-11T09:15:00.000-07:002008-11-11T09:15:00.000-07:00Thank you for stopping by my blog! I have really e...Thank you for stopping by my blog! I have really enjoyed your post!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2982662593354859176.post-72144890935904253202008-11-11T05:43:00.000-07:002008-11-11T05:43:00.000-07:00Excellent! Well said. I especially resonated with ...Excellent! Well said. I especially resonated with insulting God by expecting unregnerate people to believe what I believe, to value what I value and to try to live the way I try to live. It's like being angry when a blind woman cannot find her shoes! She needs them, wants them but "wanting and needing" doesn't make it possible to for her to find them. Thank you!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2982662593354859176.post-42170792798586487532008-11-10T21:00:00.000-07:002008-11-10T21:00:00.000-07:00Dearest sister Betsy,This is so wonderful! Have yo...Dearest sister Betsy,<BR/><BR/>This is so wonderful! Have you ever heard of the Way of the Master ministry? It's just remarkable! The reason why it's called Way of the Master and not anything else is b/c they teach others how to preach the Gospel the way our Master, Jesus did it.<BR/><BR/>I actually don't pray and have anyone repeat after me. I tell them if they're heart has been pierced by God's word and then, they will be able to pray a prayer of repentance and confession with the help of the Holy Spirit.<BR/><BR/>But I never even ask them if they want to pray after I finish sharing the Gospel as I feel that is really "fishing" for a false conversion more than anything else. Let me put it this way, if I hadn't eaten for a week, and you put food in front of me, would you have to ask me if I wanted to eat it? No!<BR/><BR/>Like you said, if the Holy Spirit convicts the unregenerate sinner to repent and receive salvation, then you won't have to ask them, they will ask you what they need to do to be saved (like in the book of Acts after the Apostle Peter shared the Gospel in Acts 2:37.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, I'm very passionate about evangelism so I could go on and on, but I won't. :-)<BR/><BR/>Bless you sister,<BR/>SunnySunny Shellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09674475342718080024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2982662593354859176.post-51312713960434087602008-11-10T18:25:00.000-07:002008-11-10T18:25:00.000-07:00This is wonderful and thought provoking. I'm so ex...This is wonderful and thought provoking. I'm so extremely thankful that my salvation doesn't depend on what I do, or I would be completely lost! Thank you for sharing this. I'm going to post a link to it on Twitter.Connie Arnoldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06264510809220669622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2982662593354859176.post-50364922904690771242008-11-10T10:33:00.000-07:002008-11-10T10:33:00.000-07:00This is so powerful, I don't even know what to say...This is so powerful, I don't even know what to say! You are such a thinker, friend, and have a way of putting those thoughts into words. I only wish I could do the same. <BR/><BR/>The scripture from Matthew 7:20 is one that came up in conversation a few nights ago with my husband. How do we really know if someone who "professes" to be a Christian really is one? I'm so thankful that God holds the final say in the matter; still and yet, I think we shouldn't shrink back from assessing pure motives...ones driven by the reality of Christ in us...his Spirit working in us to produce the living fruit of our regeneration. <BR/><BR/>In the past five years, I have seen the fruit of my own journey come to harvest. I've wept untold tears over my years of complacent Christianity. <BR/><BR/>The greatest miracle we could ever witness on this earth is the transformed life. Only by his Spirit is that possible. We must be ever vigilant to tend to his presence within.<BR/><BR/>Thank you for being a thinker and challenging me to do the same. Now could you please write a post about the Jehovah witnesses? They seem to be my portion lately. I'll have to dig our Ravi's book on "The Kingdom of the Cults" and do my research.<BR/><BR/>peace~elaineelaine @ peace for the journeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09675745465728814736noreply@blogger.com